Rev. Marie Orthodox Quakerism

From her Faith-O-Matic quiz by answering 20 questions about my concept of God, the afterlife, human nature, etc.

This test is to complement Rev. Eric one at https://ericmichel.blog/2018/11/02/are100-sure-that-you-are-what-you-say-you-are-regarding-your-belief/

So, both leaders’ way of thinking is display.

At number 1, Eric score Orthodox Quakerism with the result of 90%

For Marie, it is in the Header Orthodox Quakerism 100%, while Eric header is Conservative Christian Protestantat at 100%

  1. Marie Conservative Christian Protestant 88% /  Eric 100%
  2. Marie Orthodox Judaism 80%  / Eric 67%
  3. Marie Seven Day Adventist 79% / Eric 73%
  4. Marie Liberal Christian Protestant 76% / Eric 69%
  5. Marie Liberal Quakerism 75% / Eric 67%
  6. Marie Reformed Judaism 75%  / Eric 69%
  7. Marie Roman Catholic 71%  /  Eric 73%
  8. Marie Church of Jesus Christ Latter Day Saint 67%  / Eric 70%
  9. Marie Sikhism 67%  /  Eric 70%
  10. Marie Easter Orthodox Christianity 63%  / Eric 66%
  11. Marie Unitarian Universalist 63%  / Eric 63%
  12. Marie Baha I Faith 59%  /  Eric 70%
  13. Marie Islam 59% / Eric 55%
  14. Marie Jehovah’s Witnesses 51% / Eric 70%
  15. Marie Hinduism 47%  / Eric 76%
  16. Marie Secular Humanist 44%  / Eric 40%
  17. Marie Jainism 37% /  Eric 58%
  18. Marie Neo-Paganism 35% /  Eric 46%
  19. Marie Church of Christ, Scientist 32% /  Eric 69%
  20. Marie Scientology 32%  / Eric 73%
  21. Marie Taoism 29%  / Eric 56%
  22. Marie New Thought 24%  / Eric 60%
  23. Marie Atheism 24%  / Eric 22%

 

The deduction is that Rev Eric and Rev Marie both Conservative Christian Protestant in the Orthodox Quakerism style. Can we take for granted that the header is the score of 100%, in this case, you should read:

  • Eric Conservative Christian Protestant 100%
  • Marie Orthodox Quakerism 100%

In the second position for both is the same result but inversed…

Now, what is the belief of the Orthodox Quaker?

Wile Rev. Eric defined himself as a Methodist united with Rev. Marie a Baptist

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Quakers

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quakers

Quakers (or Friends) are members of a historically Christian group of religious movements formally known as the Religious Society of Friends, Society of Friends or Friends Church. Members of the various Quaker movements are all generally united in a belief in the ability of each human being to experientially access “the light within”, or “that of God in everyone”.

Some may profess the priesthood of all believers, a doctrine derived from the First Epistle of Peter. They include those with evangelical, holiness, liberal, and traditional Quaker understandings of Christianity. There are also Nontheist Quakers whose spiritual practice is not reliant on the existence of gods. To differing extents, the different movements that make up the Religious Society of Friends/Friends Church avoid creeds and hierarchical structures

Around 89% of Quakers worldwide belong to the “evangelical” and “programmed” branches of Quakerism, these Quakers worship in services with singing and a prepared message from the Bible, coordinated by a pastor. Around 11% of Friends practice waiting for worship, or unprogrammed worship (more commonly known today as Meeting for Worship), where the order of service is not planned in advance, is predominantly silent and may include unprepared vocal ministry from those present. Some meetings of both types have Recorded Ministers in their meetings—Friends recognized for their gift of vocal ministry.

The first Quakers lived in mid-17th-century England. The movement arose from the Legatine-Arians and other dissenting Protestant groups, breaking away from the established Church of England. The Quakers, especially the ones known as the Valiant Sixty, attempted to convert others to their understanding of Christianity, travelling both throughout Great Britain and overseas, preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ. Some of these early Quaker ministers were women. They based their message on the religious belief that “Christ has come to teach his people himself”, stressing the importance of a direct relationship with God through Jesus Christ, and a direct religious belief in the universal priesthood of all believers. They emphasized a personal and direct religious experience of Christ, acquired through both direct religious experience and the reading and studying of the Bible. Quakers focused their private life on developing behaviour and speech reflecting emotional purity and the light of God.

In the past, Quakers were known for their use of thee as an ordinary pronoun, refusal to participate in the war, plain dress, refusal to swear oaths, opposition to slavery, and teetotalism. Some Quakers founded banks and financial institutions, including Barclays, Lloyds, and Friends Provident; manufacturing companies, including shoe retailer C. & J. Clark and the big three British confectionery makers Cadbury, Rowntree and Fry; and philanthropic efforts, including abolition of slavery, prison reform, and social justice projects.

The Splits

In the 19th century, there was a diversification of theological beliefs in the Religious Society of Friends, and this led to several large splits within the Quaker movement.

Hicksite–Orthodox split

The Hicksite–Orthodox split arose out of both ideological and socio-economic tensions. Philadelphia Yearly Meeting Hicksites tended to be agrarian and poorer than the more urban, wealthier, Orthodox Quakers. With increasing financial success, Orthodox Quakers wanted to “make the Society a more respectable body, to transform their sect into a church, by adopting mainstream Protestant orthodoxy”. Hicksites, though they held a variety of views, generally saw the market economy as corrupting, and believed Orthodox Quakers had sacrificed their orthodox Christian spirituality for material success. Hicksites viewed the Bible as secondary to the individual cultivation of God’s light within.

With Gurneyite Quaker’s shift towards Protestant principles and away from the spiritualization of human relations, women’s role as promoters of “holy conversation” started to decrease. Conversely, within the Hicksite movement, the rejection of the market economy and the continuing focus on community and family bonds tended to encourage women to retain their role as powerful arbiters.

Elias Hicks’ religious views were claimed to be universalist and to contradict Quakers’ historical orthodox Christian beliefs and practices. Elias Hicks’ Gospel preaching and teaching precipitated the Great Separation of 1827, which resulted in a parallel system of Yearly Meetings in America, joined by Friends from Philadelphia, New York, Ohio, Indiana, and Baltimore. They were referred to by their opponents as Hicksites and by others, and sometimes themselves, as orthodox. Quakers in Great Britain only recognized the Orthodox Quakers and refused to correspond with the Hicksites

 

Programmed worship

West Mansfield Friends Church, Ohio, affiliated with the Evangelical Friends Church International

In programmed worship, there is often a prepared Biblical message, which may be delivered by an individual with theological training from a Bible College. There may be hymns, a sermon, Bible readings, joint prayers and a period of silent worship. The worship resembles the church services of other Protestant denominations, although in most cases does not include the Eucharist. A paid pastor may be responsible for pastoral care.

Ecumenical relations

Many Quakers prior to the 20th century, considered the Religious Society of Friends to be a Christian movement but did not feel that their religious faith fit within the categories of Catholic, Orthodox, or Protestant. Many Conservative Friends, while fully seeing themselves as orthodox Christians, choose to remain separate from other Christian groups.

Many Friends in Liberal Friends’ meetings are actively involved in the ecumenical movement, often working closely with other Mainline Protestant and liberal Christian churches, with whom they share common religious ground. A concern for peace and social justice often brings Friends together with other Christian churches and other Christian groups. Some Liberal Quaker yearly meetings are members of ecumenical pan-Christian organizations, which include Protestant, Orthodox, and Anglican churches—for example, Philadelphia Yearly Meeting is a member of the National Council of Churches. Britain Yearly Meeting is a member of Churches Together in Britain and Ireland, and Friends General Conference is a member of the World Council of Churches.

Guerneyite Friends would typically see themselves as part of an orthodox Christian movement and work closely with other Christian groups. Friends United Meeting (the international organization of Gurneyite yearly meetings) is a member of the National Council of Churches and the World Council of Churches, which are pan-Christian organizations, which include Protestant, Orthodox, and Anglican churches.

Evangelical Friends work closely with other evangelical churches from other Christian traditions. The North American branch of Evangelical Friends Church International is a member church of the National Association of Evangelicals. Evangelical Friends tend to be less involved with non-evangelical churches and are not members of the World Council of Churches or National Council of Churches.

The majority of other Christian groups recognize Friends among their fellow-Christians. Some people who attend Quaker Meetings assume that Quakers are not Christians when they do not hear overtly Christian language during the meeting for worship.

Theory of evolution

The theory of evolution described by Charles Darwin in On the Origin of Species (1859) was opposed by many Quakers in the nineteenth century, particularly by older evangelical Quakers who dominated the Religious Society of Friends in Great Britain. These religious leaders were suspicious of Darwin’s theory and believed that natural selection needed to be supplemented by another process.

However, some young Friends such as John Wilhelm Rowntree and Edward Grubb supported Darwin’s theories adopting a doctrine of progressive revelation with evolutionary ideas. In the United States, Joseph Moore taught the theory of evolution at the Quaker Earlham College as early as 1861 and was probably one of the first teachers in the Midwest to do so. Acceptance of the theory of evolution became more widespread in those Yearly Meetings, which moved towards liberal Christianity in the twentieth century, while a belief in creationism persists within evangelical Friends Churches, particularly in East Africa and parts of the U.S.

Quaker Renaissance

In the late 19th century and early 20th century, a religious movement known as the Quaker Renaissance movement began within London Yearly Meeting. Young Friends in London Yearly Meeting at this time moved away from evangelicalism and towards liberal Christianity. This Quaker Renaissance movement was particularly influenced by John Wilhelm Rowntree, Edward Grubb, and Rufus Jones. These Liberal Friends promoted the theory of evolution, modern biblical criticism, and the social meaning of Jesus Christ’s teaching, encouraging Friends to follow the New Testament example of Christ by performing good works. These Quaker men downplayed the evangelical Quaker belief in the atonement of Christ on the Cross at Calvary. After the Manchester Conference in England in 1895, one thousand British Friends met to consider the future of British Quakerism and, as a result, liberal Quaker thought gradually increased within London Yearly Meeting.

The Mennonites

The Mennonites are members of certain Christian groups belonging to the church communities of Anabaptist denominations. The Amish and Mennonites are both Anabaptist sects that formed as part of the Protestant Reformation but separate from it.

The Quakers share very little with the Amish and Mennonites.

Statistics

How can we interpret the results for Rev. Eric and Marie?

What is your opinion on this matter?

Please give us your comments below…

Pierre Luc Galarneau

Admin Secretary of Eric Michel Ministries International

 

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1 thought on “Rev. Marie Orthodox Quakerism

  1. Removing all who have 5% and less difference between the two, this is what left:
    1. Marie Orthodox Quakerism 100% Eric 90%
    2. Marie Conservative Christian Protestant 88% Eric 100%
    3. Marie Orthodox Judaism 80% Eric 67%
    4. Marie Seven Day Adventist 79% Eric 73%
    5. Marie Liberal Christian Protestant 76% Eric 69%
    6. Marie Liberal Quakerism 75% Eric 67%
    7. Marie Reformed Judaism 75% Eric 69%
    8. Marie Baha I Faith 59% Eric 70%
    9. Marie Jehovah’s Witnesses 51% Eric 70%
    10. Marie Hinduism 47% Eric 76%
    11. Marie Jainism 37% Eric 58%
    12. Marie Neo-Paganism 35% Eric 46%
    13. Marie Church of Christ, Scientist 32% Eric 69%
    14. Marie Scientology 32% Eric 73%
    15. Marie Taoism 29% Eric 56%
    16. Marie New Thought 24% Eric 60%
    17. Marie Atheism 24% Eric 22%

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    Questions from http://www.people.wku.edu:
    Do you feel the results accurately reflect your worldview? Rev. Eric no
    Did you find different faiths or religions with similar beliefs to your own? Rev. Eric yes
    Were some of them difficult to answer? Rev. Eric no
    Did you find yourself unsure of what to answer at some points? Rev. Eric no
    Did you encounter any questions whose answer choices did not reflect how you feel? Rev. Eric no but the result did
    Were you faced with any new perspectives on faith, religion, and spiritual worldview when reading these questions and answer selections? Rev. Eric no
    Were these tests useful in helping you think through your own religious/spiritual convictions? Rev. Eric no
    Are these tests a legitimate way to measure beliefs concerning spirituality and religion? Rev.Eric in some way
    What did you learn from each of these tests? Rev.Eric revelation on the Conservative Christianity
    Would you recommend these tests to others? Rev.Eric oh yes…

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    Also on HuffPost
    My Neighbor’s Faith: Belief-O-Matic and Me
    According to the Internet, I am 100 percent Reform Jew. This came as something of a surprise to me since I’m a Muslim. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/kecia-ali/belief-o-matic-and-me_b_1501535.html

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    By Common Consent

    Recently I took a 20 question quiz on belief.net called the Belief-O-Matic. After taking the quiz, it spits out a list (with percentages) of religions that are well-matched for you and the beliefs you proclaimed in the quiz.

    The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormons) was 4th on my list at 75%. That surprised me.

    The quiz asks some doctrinal questions about how you see your higher power, the purpose of life and the afterlife and it also asks a bunch of questions on social issues. Because of my answers on most of the social issues, I figured Mormonism would come in pretty low on my list. So I re-evaluated the quiz and determined that what made me specifically Mormon was the fact that I believe God has a body.

    https://bycommonconsent.com/2006/08/31/belief-o-matic-registered-trademark/

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    Dr. Kersen,

    My results of the Belief-O-Matic Quiz is as follows:

    1. 100% Orthodox Quaker
    2. 97% Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant
    3. 89% Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons)

    I was surprised to be considered an Orthodox Quaker. I guess I can live with the results being that religion is a social phenomenon. Although, I understand that some of all religion has some similar beliefs when it comes to religion.

    By LaKitshia Griffin
    at 7 thoughts on “Religion and Sociological Perspective” at https://tmkersen.wordpress.com/sociology-of-religion/august-23-2010/

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